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Carers Chill4us | Carers message board Fighting back against carers isolation 2014-01-02T19:40:26+00:00 https://www.chill4uscarers.co.uk/forums/feed.php?f=77&t=24181 2014-01-02T19:40:26+00:00 2014-01-02T19:40:26+00:00 https://www.chill4uscarers.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24181&p=298290#p298290 <![CDATA[Re: Chloe mentioned all of us in Parliament]]> Statistics: Posted by Misspears — 02 Jan 2014, 19:40


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"The bad news is that although Mr. Lansley, who opened for the Conservative Opposition, said that there was a need for consensus, he then went on to scaremonger about the so-called attempt by a Labour Government to take away disability benefits from nearly 3 million people in Britain. Frankly, that is a disgraceful way to come at the subject, because the reform of social care is an important matter for all of us."

I think she would be scared if all she had to live on was benefits instead of the expenses!

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"...let me explain that there is no independence for an elderly person living on attendance allowance in a local authority that does not see social care as one of its funding priorities. That is not about independence, it does not provide choice and it certainly does not give control. As for my friends in voluntary organisations such as Carers UK and the many others that have been mentioned, I have the utmost respect for them, but I think they know in their heart of hearts that we must have a genuine discussion about how to deal with the demographic time-bomb and the social care time-bomb that we all face. I understand exactly why they are advancing some of the arguments that we have heard today, but they need to become part of the ongoing discussion about how we can reform the system. Even the best of the voluntary organisations need to respond..."


http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debate/?i ... -08a.180.0

There is no independence when ALL of the funding is coming from the local authority!

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If they had had the strength of their convictions in supporting the EDM then they should have voted for the EDM to be adopted in full and not amended as it turned out to be.

But well done Chloe again for voicing our concerns.

Its also a pity folk like Anne McGuire are just not getting it:-

As I have said, I believe that genuine discussions must take place with the organisations that represent the needs and ambitions of disabled people. Let me say this to the Government, and I say it with the utmost respect to my colleagues. I welcomed the Secretary of State's comments about cash support, but the Government know that disability benefits, including attendance allowance, are valued and that any proposed changes should be seen in the context of improving the lives of disabled and older people in the future-I recognise that we are talking about the future.

How about, God forbid Anne, "discussions" actually WITH disabled people and their Carers and not just "organisations that represent " ?

Sorry, that would lead to inconvenient things like the truth leaking out...

ian

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That this House recognises the vital support that attendance allowance and disability living allowance provide for people with disabilities; notes that these benefits are intended to meet the additional costs of living with an impairment or long-term health condition; further notes with concern that approximately 2.87 million people in the UK who receive disability living allowance or attendance allowance are not eligible for social care services; acknowledges that some 20,000 individuals have petitioned the Prime Minister and many more have petitioned individual hon. and right hon. Members to ensure that these benefits are secured; welcomes the Government's announcement that disability living allowance for people under 65 years will not be scrapped; and urges the Government to ensure that attendance allowance and disability living allowance for people aged 65 years and over are secured and not abolished as part of any future reform of the social care system.

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